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then they decide not to fight on the debt ceiling and they need to move the attention on to something else. say they do have leverage elsewhere. so they have chosen sequester and put up a very brave face on it. it's possible they could convince themselves to let it actually happen but the idea that they get some sort of significant political gain from it, these are cuts they hated and they hated in large part because they hurt things they care about. so to permit the sequester to go forward on that kind of rationale is not a political win, not a policy win. everybody is losing. >> the "new york times" op-ed says more than a million jobs are on the line if this deal isn't made. a quote saying the losses will soon spread as contracts to states and cities are cut, education and police grants are cut, and payments to medicare providers are cut, even the aid just approved to victims of hurricane sandy will fall under the sequester's act. americans are about to find out what happens when an entire political party demands deficit reduction at all costs because those costs will be enormous. t
then they decide not to fight on the debt ceiling and they need to move the attention on to something else. say they do have leverage elsewhere. so they have chosen sequester and put up a very brave face on it. it's possible they could convince themselves to let it actually happen but the idea that they get some sort of significant political gain from it, these are cuts they hated and they hated in large part because they hurt things they care about. so to permit the sequester to go forward on...
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debt ceiling is you cannot borrow, so you have to balance the budget tomorrow. in addition to that, there was the kind of not very real threat that we might default on the national debt or postpone payments, so you're playing with a combination of a big fiscal contraction and the possibility of triggering a financial crisis also. lori: i want to ask you about your book. after the music stopped, but about the financial crisis, to a dozen 7-8. looking back, said always 2020, what were the best actions taken by the federal government and the worst? >> at think there were three. in net you a tie for first? >> you know how tv works. >> one was tart. very unpopular, but effective and turn a profit for the taxpayer. second was the stimulus that we were just talking about. could have been better. was not a perfect stimulus bill, a pretty good given the political constraints. third, what almost no one ever talks about, the bank stress test. to me the banks stress test and this compared pedestrian 2009 was the equivalent of the fdr bank holiday. once was over people felt
debt ceiling is you cannot borrow, so you have to balance the budget tomorrow. in addition to that, there was the kind of not very real threat that we might default on the national debt or postpone payments, so you're playing with a combination of a big fiscal contraction and the possibility of triggering a financial crisis also. lori: i want to ask you about your book. after the music stopped, but about the financial crisis, to a dozen 7-8. looking back, said always 2020, what were the best...
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but let's assume because the debt ceiling doesn't kick in till august, i believe that's what we'll have but let's add these together. let's say you're right, 30 billion. but let's -- jobs oversea, we can dial that however we want because it's all -- a huge loss of revenue, corporate jets. all kind of things that are low-hanging fruit. >> you've heard the republican as cross the board here. they're saying they're done with revenues for 2013. >> george, the american people are on our side. the american people don't believe in these austere things. we believe the rich should contribute. we believe we should fill those tax loopholes, get rid of them, i should say, and that's where we need to go. >> that's a debate that's been had as you know are to the last couple of months, last couple of years and doesn't appear it will get solved next month so the sequester will hit. >> greorge, that's what they sad two or three days before the fiscal cliff. no revenue. we got $700 billion. there's still more we can do. >> are you saying that for -- t all, it's going to have to include some new revenue,
but let's assume because the debt ceiling doesn't kick in till august, i believe that's what we'll have but let's add these together. let's say you're right, 30 billion. but let's -- jobs oversea, we can dial that however we want because it's all -- a huge loss of revenue, corporate jets. all kind of things that are low-hanging fruit. >> you've heard the republican as cross the board here. they're saying they're done with revenues for 2013. >> george, the american people are on our...
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to hit the debt ceiling. while the outcome could make it worse one bright spot growth is expect to do pick up from 2014 to 2018 as the effect of the housing financial criess is continues to face. >> thank you so much diane. >> it's 46 after the top of the hour. coming up, do you make your guests take off their shoes before they come into your house? are you normal or nuts doing this? >> you think cutting calories diet drinks are a good idea it turns out that is true unless you are mixing it with booze. we will explain that one straight ahead. first let's check in with steve doocy to see what's coming up on fox and friends first. >> it wouldn't be a morning without talking about food. >> sounds like you have been mixing something with something up there in that studio, lady. good morning to you. coming up on fox and friends we are talking a little bit how the governors of california and tech as are in a fight. which is better for business, texas with no income tax or california that has one way up here? also,
to hit the debt ceiling. while the outcome could make it worse one bright spot growth is expect to do pick up from 2014 to 2018 as the effect of the housing financial criess is continues to face. >> thank you so much diane. >> it's 46 after the top of the hour. coming up, do you make your guests take off their shoes before they come into your house? are you normal or nuts doing this? >> you think cutting calories diet drinks are a good idea it turns out that is true unless you...
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. >> i will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to him. it needs to stop. >> this is not a complicated concept. >> he's standing strong. and that's making it even harder for an already divided gop to regroup. take exhibit a. earlier today, tagg romney's name was floated as a possible gop senate candidate in massachusetts. he's since bowed out. guess he saw what happened to the last romney. . >>> and then there's this. gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and
. >> i will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to him. it needs to stop. >> this is not a complicated concept. >> he's standing strong. and that's making it even harder for an already divided gop to regroup. take exhibit a. earlier today, tagg romney's name was floated as a...
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. >> well, the president just signed the bill that raises the debt ceiling. so in an age where these fiscal fights are, they're the same, they're ongoing, they can be insecendiary incendiary, we're always talking about a government shutdown of one kind or another, where does this leave us? >> it leaves us with a bunch of people who just fought the first fight, and the senate democrats are going to annapolis today and tomorrow to try to figure out, how do we move forward? how do we move forward with a budget? how do we move forward on funding the government? both of those things need to be done by april 15th. >> because they have taken some hits. and do they really want to give republicans anymore ammunition? >> that's why they've said, we're going to do a budget. and they were happy to sign the increase, meant they had a deadline of april 15th, where they don't get paid, and they have to get a budget done. >> always a good incentive there. >> so democrats understand that they need that, but this is going to be a partisan document by and large, saying, here's
. >> well, the president just signed the bill that raises the debt ceiling. so in an age where these fiscal fights are, they're the same, they're ongoing, they can be insecendiary incendiary, we're always talking about a government shutdown of one kind or another, where does this leave us? >> it leaves us with a bunch of people who just fought the first fight, and the senate democrats are going to annapolis today and tomorrow to try to figure out, how do we move forward? how do we...
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ceiling in 2011. >> but they now say it was the president who is responsible. >> exactly. they voted for this. >> and paul ryan runs a marathon in less than one hour. >> i thought it was like 20 minutes. he's superman. this is what they wanted. >> of course. congressman, here is another apparent contradiction you might like to clear up for us. on the one hand, you have eric cantor out there giving a speech on making life work. he sounds like tony robbins or something. he's trying to sell yet another iteration of the republican party, but when you strip away the soft smile and the cadence, he'd happily slash every one of those programs that you just went through, wouldn't he? >> oh, absolutely. eric cantor despite all of the covering in the near is definitely proposing budgets that are hostile to middle and low income people. and particularly to vulnerable people, but not only that, you know, programs like s.n.a.p. actually give people money they can spend at the store that allows the store to hire people. eventually the programs they cut will hurt the people who are employ
ceiling in 2011. >> but they now say it was the president who is responsible. >> exactly. they voted for this. >> and paul ryan runs a marathon in less than one hour. >> i thought it was like 20 minutes. he's superman. this is what they wanted. >> of course. congressman, here is another apparent contradiction you might like to clear up for us. on the one hand, you have eric cantor out there giving a speech on making life work. he sounds like tony robbins or...
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>> i like the metaphor claire mccaskill had when they raised the debt ceiling for three months. they are like death penalty appeals. every minute, every time they have a short term fix, people are brought to the brink again. the american people are brought to the brink again. i thought it was heartening to hear from harry reid he was interested in it's not just defense talks we are talking ant. there's $500 billion in domestic cuts. once people realize republicans want to hold the economy hostage over tax cuts for the rich and even the tiny amount of concession made before was not enough for them. they start to see the impact of the cuts. i think they may have to come to the table. >> really quick in terms of march 1st, are we going to punt and have this conversation in the summer or get something done and have this fixed once and for all? robert? >> it seems like based on history we are going to punt on this again. as i said before, republicans have done a good job of keeping the democrats and the white house in defense. if history is our guide, i'm not surprised if we kick the
>> i like the metaphor claire mccaskill had when they raised the debt ceiling for three months. they are like death penalty appeals. every minute, every time they have a short term fix, people are brought to the brink again. the american people are brought to the brink again. i thought it was heartening to hear from harry reid he was interested in it's not just defense talks we are talking ant. there's $500 billion in domestic cuts. once people realize republicans want to hold the economy...
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the debt ceiling, which does not one thing to add to the budget deficit. not one nickel of spenning, it's agreeing to pay the bill. we waited seven months and threaten ord credit rating. the american people are sick of that. they want action. they want their taxes low, as we just saw happen reinly in avoiding the fiscal cliff -- which came as i might add through bipartisanship. the republicanses came through with the table to what obama proposed and he compromised with raising it to the $4,000 level. that's the action that people want to see. >> speaking of our president, he said during obamacare, oh, you're premiums wouldn't be raised. sorry, david. that's exactly what we are seeing -- >> when 2014 comes along -- [overlapping dialogue] >> americans are not able to keep their health insurance. another thing the president promised. >> i have to say, after an absence of david being out, with personal issues and health issues, we are glad to see you back. >> it's a pleasure to be back. >> happy to have you both. >> a bus transporting a philadelphia youth grou
the debt ceiling, which does not one thing to add to the budget deficit. not one nickel of spenning, it's agreeing to pay the bill. we waited seven months and threaten ord credit rating. the american people are sick of that. they want action. they want their taxes low, as we just saw happen reinly in avoiding the fiscal cliff -- which came as i might add through bipartisanship. the republicanses came through with the table to what obama proposed and he compromised with raising it to the $4,000...
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the senate is obligate as a result of the debt ceiling vote to do wait has not done in the last four years and that is present a budget resolution for four years the senate said we don't care if the law requires us to do it. we'll ignore that. martha: let's hope dave camp's proposal of taking on tax reform is something republicans have been talking about for a long time. chinned with the fact that the senate must act on a budget must get us into tangibles in terms of this discuss in washington. carl, thank you so much. always good to talk to you. gregg: disturbing information about iran's nuclear program. martha: this is one of the most interesting moments of the game. the light went out. i thought this was a blowout game and the next thing you know -- a firsthand account from what it was like at the stadium from a familiar football fan. hey, it's me, progressive insurance. you know, from our 4,000 television commercials. yep, there i am with flo. hoo-hoo! watch it! [chuckles] anyhoo, 3 million people switched to me last year, saving an average of $475. [sigh] it feels good to help p
the senate is obligate as a result of the debt ceiling vote to do wait has not done in the last four years and that is present a budget resolution for four years the senate said we don't care if the law requires us to do it. we'll ignore that. martha: let's hope dave camp's proposal of taking on tax reform is something republicans have been talking about for a long time. chinned with the fact that the senate must act on a budget must get us into tangibles in terms of this discuss in washington....
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there's the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling. now the sequester. i mean, we're now talk about perhaps $85 billion in spending cuts in 2013 if they don't get their act together on the sequester. that's pointing exactly in the opposite direction. so the fed is kind of setting the table but not getting the support from the congress on the fiscal side. >> so given the looming debt ceiling limit here, this week on morning joe the "new york times" economist argued why the u.s. should spend now and worry about deficit reduction later. here it is. >> dashing spending when you still have depressed economy is really destructive. it's probably even counterproductive even in purely fiscal terms. we should be sustaining government spending until we have a stronger economic recovery. >> this is not a hard call. as long as we have 4 million people who have been unemployed for more than a year, this is not a time to be worrying about reducing the budget deficit. give me something that looks more like a normal employment situation and i'll become a deficit hawk but
there's the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling. now the sequester. i mean, we're now talk about perhaps $85 billion in spending cuts in 2013 if they don't get their act together on the sequester. that's pointing exactly in the opposite direction. so the fed is kind of setting the table but not getting the support from the congress on the fiscal side. >> so given the looming debt ceiling limit here, this week on morning joe the "new york times" economist argued why the u.s. should...
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host: some are not strategy as far as moving the debt ceiling ahead. guest: if they had gone ahead with it, it would have been politically cataclysmic. it was the worst percival -- worst possible ground to make their point. president obama 1. i think it's absolutely crucial for the future of the country that you cannot govern from the house. some house republicans, i am sympathetic to their concerns. their enthusiasm try to get in the battle is misplaced. you would have had high-stakes confrontation. in the end, you would have had republicans peeling off. but you would have been, at the beginning, bumping your chest, making all of these demands, saying we're not going to back down. at the end they would cave damn it would have gotten the worst of all possible worlds. there's a lot of frustration in the republican caucus that john boehner has to deal with. i think he did a pretty good job. host: peter wehner, senior fellow at the ethics and the policy center. if you want to find out more about his organization and his writing, visit their web site. comi
host: some are not strategy as far as moving the debt ceiling ahead. guest: if they had gone ahead with it, it would have been politically cataclysmic. it was the worst percival -- worst possible ground to make their point. president obama 1. i think it's absolutely crucial for the future of the country that you cannot govern from the house. some house republicans, i am sympathetic to their concerns. their enthusiasm try to get in the battle is misplaced. you would have had high-stakes...
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it is an interesting piece about this fearmongering and screaming we did debt ceiling hostage crisis and all of that stuff. anyway, so not to discount your fear that we're going to be overtaken. >> well, yeah. that's paranormal. >> stephanie: we'll talk about this and much more as we continue. 19 minutes after the hour. it is "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: funny how. funny like she's a clown. like she's here to amuse you. it's the "the stephanie miller show." he was a comedy genious. addicted to the spotlight and living too close to the edge. of all the hours in all his days, these are the ones you'll never forget. ♪ bad, bad ♪ >> stephanie miller. ♪ baddest girl ♪ ♪ in the whole damn town ♪ ♪ badder than king kong ♪ ♪ meaner than a junkyard dog ♪ >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 24 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere. jake with the president carney. >> we created 2.2 million now with the revisions jobs in 2012. that means that we have been moving in the right direction when it
it is an interesting piece about this fearmongering and screaming we did debt ceiling hostage crisis and all of that stuff. anyway, so not to discount your fear that we're going to be overtaken. >> well, yeah. that's paranormal. >> stephanie: we'll talk about this and much more as we continue. 19 minutes after the hour. it is "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: funny how. funny like she's a clown. like she's here to amuse you. it's the "the stephanie...
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i think that is part of what we're seeing on the debt ceiling. the last fight over the debt ceiling back in the summer of 2011. it turned out to be a terrible self-inflicted wound. our debt got down graded. i think that is part of why -- even republicans who care very much about spending are nervous to use that as a bargaining chip again. we saw how damaging bringing into question the credit worthiness of the government. the fight should not be should we pay the bill? >> there is an interesting question about in retrospect if republicans leveraging the debt limit to get a bill that cut spending by $1 to $2 trillion going forward whether that was worth it? they introduced liquidity risk. if you don't cut spending we're not going to vote for a debt limit increase. it worked. the president agreed to cut the spending by a significant amount. now, would you like that negotiation had resulted from not having made that threat? absolutely. but do you think it would have occurred? there's the difference. i would never be one to advocate that congress shou
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. [♪ fun-facts music ♪] >> stephanie: so number 1 refused to raise the debt ceiling, cosponsored and voted for the balance the budget amendment, if the amendment were in place during the last unemployment crisis, unemployment would have doubled, number 5 doesn't believe in climate change, he voted against the motion to debate the violence of women act. believes employers should be able to deny birth control to their employees. and urging americans to deny equal rights, and wouldn't say whether same-sex couples should receive production under the immigration law. >> oh there's more than that. would you indulge me? >> stephanie: yes, please. >> he tweeted yesterday there is only one savior and then he felt the need to hashtag jesus. >> stephanie: oh, thank you. >> and he revealed his list of favorite songs. paul ryan said he had rage against the machine as one of his favorite bands. >> stephanie: and the machine was like hey you are what we are raging against. >> he had cold play and even the tupac song changes, but he said one of his favorite tunes was click by kanye. it's a great son
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the house and senate extended the debt ceiling. president obama has signed the no budget, no pay act of 2013. not only does that put off the nation's debt obligations until may 18th, it also withholds pay for a number of congressmen and womenless women unless they pass a budget by april. >>> eight senators have voted to block the violence against women act. that bill would protect victims of domestic violence and this particular version extends that care to illegal immigrants, native americans and lgbt members. senators who voted against considering that bill include ted cruz, marco rubio and rand paul, all republicans. more bill's up next. stay with us. to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >
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ceiling and that is no way to govern the country. i am hopeful that new labels will give us a way to govern the country where we start out at least bleeding in trusting the other members across the aisle have come to congress for the same reason we have. >> what can you do to bring about a more thoughtful, pragmatic congress? i want to throw out three ideas that are beyond the scope of what knolls febles has taken on. -- no labels has taken on. it was not perfect. we have 150 saved seats. they fear their primary. number two, money. and sentence. the creation of money is one of the threats to democracy. where incentivize to do crazy things. i give two examples last night. when the season the outrageous on the floor, when a republican member calls the president a liar, when a democratic member says the republican health care program is don't get sick and if you die, die quickly. those statements damage the fabric of our democracy and they raised $1 million in 24 hours. we can do about -- something about those first two. number three is
ceiling and that is no way to govern the country. i am hopeful that new labels will give us a way to govern the country where we start out at least bleeding in trusting the other members across the aisle have come to congress for the same reason we have. >> what can you do to bring about a more thoughtful, pragmatic congress? i want to throw out three ideas that are beyond the scope of what knolls febles has taken on. -- no labels has taken on. it was not perfect. we have 150 saved seats....
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. >> your thoughts on the debt ceiling. >> no. >> you think we are in danger of a bond bubble? >> i don't even know what that is. >> which mario has done a better job monti or draghi? >> monti or draghi? you know i have no idea what you're talking about, so -- >> what's your favorite show on television? >> hmm. "american greed." >> really? >> yeah. >> can you open that up for me? >> oh! >> you just made my day. >> i wish we could show more of that stuff. that was michael james, guys. and he was touched. because he tweets about "american greed" all the time. and i went on to talk to him about his favorite show and he's like god forgive me, but the one when the preacher steals from the church, and he went through this whole thing about how that's his favorite show. matt burke went to harvard he knows his stuff with the ravens and the kicker for the niners, he's a cramer guy and he's a conservative aaa-rated tax-free bond guy. >> i feel so bad for these guys because it's kind of like talking to me about football. if you ask me those questions, like oh, yeah. >> they would get angr
. >> your thoughts on the debt ceiling. >> no. >> you think we are in danger of a bond bubble? >> i don't even know what that is. >> which mario has done a better job monti or draghi? >> monti or draghi? you know i have no idea what you're talking about, so -- >> what's your favorite show on television? >> hmm. "american greed." >> really? >> yeah. >> can you open that up for me? >> oh! >> you just made my...
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. >> with the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling and trying to get bipartisan, but over here is something called poverty, 50 million americans and racial disparity and cities collapsing and the like. i'm going to make the case we should build america an urban infrastructural bank for the purpose of long-term loans. we do it in europe and japan. and no other country charges people to repatriate their money once they pay taxes in that country. but we do. but if we, in fact, took a portion of that money, part for research and development and part of it for an institutional bank, you could do what banks are not doing, and that's invest in these downtrodden areas of our country. >> gillian, we've been talking about it for years, trillions of dollars sitting on the sidelines not coming back to america. how do we get it back here? >> almost $2 trillion. you've got average household earnings down over the past four years, poverty is up. we need this money working in our economy. how do we get it here? >> absolutely. i think the reverend's idea is very interesting because right now many of the com
. >> with the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling and trying to get bipartisan, but over here is something called poverty, 50 million americans and racial disparity and cities collapsing and the like. i'm going to make the case we should build america an urban infrastructural bank for the purpose of long-term loans. we do it in europe and japan. and no other country charges people to repatriate their money once they pay taxes in that country. but we do. but if we, in fact, took a portion of...
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the guy who helped craft the debt ceiling plan. when he puts out that budget that is the document republicans have to run on the next two years because it has severe spending cuts on the domestic side because they have to balance the budget in ten years, a mighty task because they don't want to raise taxes. >> he has no interest in the sheer grind of campaigning. it's hard to see him having what it takes to run for president in 2016. is that even in his mind? is that a possibility for him? >> i don't think he's ever rule it out having been the veep last time and having national statutostature and i do think you have to wapt badly and willing to go for two years that state to state, talking to folks at the grassroots and i don't think he really likes that. likes the idea of spending some time with his family and work the halls of congress. the next two years are about austerity for the republican party. that would be really tough to run for president trying to partially privatize medicare and cut domestic spending across the board.
the guy who helped craft the debt ceiling plan. when he puts out that budget that is the document republicans have to run on the next two years because it has severe spending cuts on the domestic side because they have to balance the budget in ten years, a mighty task because they don't want to raise taxes. >> he has no interest in the sheer grind of campaigning. it's hard to see him having what it takes to run for president in 2016. is that even in his mind? is that a possibility for...